Posts by Doug Mason

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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"

by Doug Mason in

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Doug Mason

mP,

Right from the start, there were any number of Christianities. Their beliefs were so diverse, it is difficult to comprehend how they saw themselves as having allegiance to a common source - Jesus (Yeshua).

Paul was only one movement among an array of movements.

It just so happens that one of these numerous groups was ultimately victorious - Paul's followers. It was a political decision on the part of the state (Roman emperors). Since they were victorious, Paul's successors decided that their writings would form the Christian sacred writings - the NT.

If some other Christian group had ganed the victory - and the differences were immense, much greater than today - then the NT would have been different (or none at all), we would not have the same Christology (no Trinity), etc. I go through these issues in my Study, so I fail to see how you can say I was taking advice from him. I simply recorded what he said - in his genuine writings.

Doug

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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"

by Doug Mason in

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Doug Mason

Wayward son,

Apologies for the size - and for the range of topics. That's the reason I collected the Summaries at the start; otherwise the thread would get lost.

It took me a few weeks to put together, so I suspect it will take tme to work through - and agree here and there, as well as disagree.

Doug

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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"

by Doug Mason in

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Doug Mason

TheOldHippie,

I open my Study and the "Readings" with Franz's speech, since not everyone has a transcript. I provided an edited version it to make it easier to find his main points as well as the full transcript.

There are other major issues I felt neede to be canvassed, such as the formation of the NT by the Church Fathers that the WTS rejects.

In addition, I did not want to simply leave a hole with "that's where the WTS is wrong", but I wanted to take the opportunity to provide alternative and hopefully constructive views.

I fully expect that every single reader will disagree with things that I wrote. That is natural; we are not clones. I do not mind. But if someone is helped with just one idea, then I am satisfied.

Doug

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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"

by Doug Mason in

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Doug Mason

Thanks Phizzy,

Yes, I'll be 73 in November. Each time, I keep telling myself this will be the last one. Possibly will be - but I do have thoughts about the unreliability of Acts yet the WTS completely relies on it.

I will sit back for a few days.

Doug

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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

by Londo111 in

this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.

Doug Mason

Scholar (on this Thread),

Since you and I live in the same time zone, talk to me on Skype in the morning (Friday) and let's verify that you are genuine.

Doug

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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

by Londo111 in

this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.

Doug Mason

Except that I argue, as do others - including Jewish sources - that the period between the destruction of Jerusalem and the exodus into Egypt was far longer than 2 months; more likely 4 years. My explanation is at:

http://www.jwstudies.com/Did_Jews_exit_after_two_months.pdf

So the WTS starts from their mythical 537 BCE and say the Jews went into Egypt whenever - no proof either way.

Their problem then lies in the fact that they require the land to be "empty" for the 70 years to run but they wait until long after the first Jews return from Babylon and settle into their towns and villages, then walk to Jerusalem before they end the 70 years. They have no parallel, just a solution looking for a way out.

Their real issue is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that their ending event is correct (against 2 Chr 36:22) and that they definitely know the year that it happened. No need for neo-Babylonian chronologies.

Doug

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Don't ever....ever...EVER forget these came from the FDS and Governing Body

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

Doug Mason

Vaccinations were forbidden because they contain blood products. I have articles "somewhere" (Watchtowers, I think) that prohibited vaccinations at the time.

The prohibition was quickly dropped because it prevented JWs travelling internationally - and that would hurt the WTS.

Doug

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Don't ever....ever...EVER forget these came from the FDS and Governing Body

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

Doug Mason

I don't remember the details of these "medical quackieries" but broadly speaking they came from one person - not JFR - who was so inclined towards medical matters. It would pay to unearth the details of that person, but unfortunately I don't have any details that I could pass on.

Doug

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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

by Londo111 in

this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.

Doug Mason

Dating of the destruction of Jerusalem is a red herring (maybe a red whale!). The WTS does not start their 70 years with that event.

Doug

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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

by Londo111 in

this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.

Doug Mason

Jeffro,

Have you made any effort to verify that the person who calls himself "Scholar JW" in these exchanges with you is really Neil or an imposter? The nature of these posts by this "JW Scholar" do not match my knowledge of the genuine N Mc.

Doug